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| Meet @HayleyStevens, a skeptic blogger |
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| Matt and my nephew |
Let me say from the outset, the few interactions I have had with Matt Moneymaker have been completely positive. My 12 yr old nephew is a big fan of his and Matt was very kind when I introduced them to each other. Matt had the utmost time and patience for the kinds of questions a kid would ask, all while during the filming of an episode.
And while I disagree with some BFRO's methodologies, I think Matt and BFRO have made some great contributions to the community.
With that said, there is a kind of comedy that can happen when tweeting back and fourth, tweet battles seem to force a reactive quality to the conversation on both sides, there is never quite enough characters to put any type of phrasing in context. I don't think either side comes out the winner on twitter.
This is most likely the case in the twitter conversation between skeptic Hayley Stevens and Matt Moneymaker. The whole conversation goes weird when Matt assumes Hayley is a "little girl," a realistic assumption, in our opinion, based on her twitter profile picture, that doesn't condone the tone of Matt's tweets, but I would not guess Hayley is, in fact, 27. Of course, that's us assuming an assumption was made based on the pic.
Hayley has her side well documented on her blog,
HayleyIsAGhost.com. Unfortunately her documentation of the the twitter conversation is one-sided showing Matt Moneymakers tweets out of context. Also unfortunately it seems that Matt Moneymaker has deleted his tweets. And beyond these two unfortunate events, there is a third unfortunate event, I have spent WAY too much time trying to piece the whole conversation together.
For what it is worth, here is the twitter conversation between Matt Moneymaker and Hayley Stevens that was shared and retweeted among the skeptic bloggers (as best as I could piece it together). Hopefully it does not look like I'm trying to pick a winner, I just wanted to give the conversation more context. If you think either side ended up with a constructive outcome let me know.
Often when ppl get hit by rocks
thrown by squatches the rocks are thrown from a distance in total darkness.
Ppl dont even see the squatches.
9:17:00 AM Hayley Stevens
it [sic] that's true, how do you know
they're there?
9:30:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
how do you know it is them that
makes those noises? If you don't see them?
9:37:00 AM Matt Moneymaker
A dog is barking but u cannot
see it. How do u know it is a dog? If u know what squatches sound like u know
when they r near.
9:42:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
dogs are a documented species of
animal. As far as I'm aware there's no documented and verified record of
sasquatch.
10:04:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
and your answer didn't make
sense
10:26:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
because the answer you provided
didn't make sense.
?????? Matt Moneymaker
It didn't make sense to you
because you are too young. Ask your parents. Seriously. They will explain
things 2 u.
10:33:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
I'm 25, I've been researching
anomalous phenomena for a decade. I know about this than my parents. Try me.
10:41:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
it seems like a leap of logic to
me, is what I was pointing out.
10:41:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
I don't understanding how you
know the sounds are sasquatch when previously nobody knows what they sound
like.
????? Matt Moneymaker
So if I explain how I and others
recognize their sounds then why bring up official classification? You missed
the point.
10:54:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
in that case why not show me
where they're documented? So I can understand your point?
????? Matt Moneymaker
Hayley, many elusive species
made recognizable sounds before thety were officially documented. Sounds
helped w/ the discovery.
10:55:00 AM Endless_Psych
You know what I don't think
grownups generally do? Use youth as an excuse not to answer a question.
10:55:00 AM Endless_Psych
Indeed far from grown up some
might actually call that childish
???? Matt Moneymaker
What children do is ignore when
their question has been answerd repeatedly if they really just don’t
comprehend
???? Matt Moneymaker
Hayley my point is that I
usually speak with older people and the answer I gave would make sense to
them just fine
10:57:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
How do you know that is a
sasquatch making those noises?
11:00:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
Your answer doesn't stand up to
scrutiny, so I asked you to clarify. That isn't me ignoring your answer.
11:04:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
and my point is that you can't
identify an animal by sound if there's no pre-existing record of what it
sounds like.
???? Matt Moneymaker
U can identify an animal by it's
sound if you have heard them many times, regardless of pre-existing records.
Ask an ecologist
11:08:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
The first time you heard a
sasquatch you knew it was a sasquatch how?
???? Matt Moneymaker
I actually didn't know what I
was hearing the very first time I heard them in the field, almost 30 years
ago. Long story
???? Matt Moneymaker
Someday u can treat me to tea
and scones and ask me whatever you like about squatches. A twitter box is too
limited for that
11:20:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
at some point you decided you'd
heard Sasquatch though. What evidence did you base that decision on?
11:20:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
I'm writing up my thoughts, you
can address them then, in your own time and perhaps without attacking me
personally.
11:22:00 AM Matt Moneymaker
Hayley stevens Just don't make
child-like assumptions about what exists and what doesn't exist. Others may
know more than you do abt things.
12:37:00 PM
Hayley Stevens
the only impressive thing here is your
arrogance
12:23:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
I suggest that says more about
your logic than it does about your professionalism though.
12:25:00 AM
Hayley Stevens
I don't really have anything to
say to you, if you can't answer the points I wrote out without being
patronising then fine.
